you know, they also brought out chris, the architect of the alabama and arizona law. they had sheriff arpao we have seen him from arizona, riding on his horse, rounding up -- arizonaans who may look like latinos. we've seen a number of comments from governor romney which talk about the dream act as a handout, serving in the military. you know, going to college, and contributing to our nation. the only country you know. when they talk about deportation remember this. they're saying we're going to make conditions so intolerable, so oppressive, so you know, miserable for people that they're going t to-- deport no country has ever deported 11 million people. and this great country will never do it either. >> rose: do you think they will talk about amnesty during this political campaign? >> i think, we don't have to get-- this is earned legallization. it doesn't have to be amnesties it. has to be-- . >> rose: democrats shy away from that term, earned. >> democrats believe in earned legallization and securing our borders but also providing a pathway. >> rose: and earned leg